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Was Kenny Wregget the one who got away?

Posted in Flyers-related with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on June 30, 2013 by wechslerh66


A Flyers fan I work with and I were recently discussing an all-Flyers team of current NHLers who won a Stanley Cup (not as Flyers, obviously– everyone from that era is of course already dead). (I’m sort of joking.) Recently-crowned Blackhawk backup (and possible future Flyer) Ray Emery was his obvious choice as starting goalie, but he couldn’t think of a single backup goalie. I guessed–correctly–that was because there wasn’t one, and hasn’t been one since Ken Wregget won a Cup with Pittsburgh in 1992.

How rare is that, though? How many teams do trade, release, or walk away from the option of a goalie who ends up winning a Cup– and, for that matter, how many teams trade for or sign as a free agent a goalie who has already won a Cup elsewhere? (In recent years, Tim Thomas, a former 9th round pick of the Quebec Nordiques who spent years in the Colorado and Edmonton systems before breaking out with the Bruins, is the classic example of the former; Antti Niemi, who won a Cup with Chicago in 2010 and signed with the Sharks that fall, may be the best example of the latter.)

My theory was that it’s extremely rare, for one major reason:

Few goaltenders win Stanley Cups, because few teams win Stanley Cups.

With the Blackhawks now having won twice in four years, we’ve had 9 different teams win Stanley Cups in the past 10 years– which means a maximum of 18 goalies who could have won a Cup, counting both starter and backup as long as the backup played a single playoff game. (Ray Emery technically hasn’t won a Cup, by the way, since Corey Crawford played every minute of every 2013 playoff game.)

This is historically rare. I still remember reading a 1989-90 season preview picking the Flames to repeat because “no one wins this thing just once.” Before the Flames won the 1989 Stanley Cup, the NHL had played 21 seasons since expanding from the Original Six to twelve teams, including the Flyers, in 1967-68, and eventually to 21 total teams by the late 1970s. During those 21 seasons, a total of just five different teams (Montreal, Boston, Edmonton, the Islanders, and the Flyers) won the Cup. Even counting season-to-season movement in starting goalies as well as counting backup goalies, a realistic denominator for those 21 seasons would be much lower than 42.

We’re counting current NHLers here, so the historic trends don’t apply per se, but we’re still talking low numbers: 30 total teams, 16 total playoff teams, a maximum of two goalies per year who end up with a Cup and a ring. In short, it would seem to be no embarrassment to the Flyers that, if Emery doesn’t count, the only goalie in Flyers history to win a Cup post-Flyers career was Ken Wregget, who played a total of 40 playoff minutes (0-0, .750 SV%, 6.00 GAA). The only other Flyers who have ever won Cups, period: Bernie Parent of course (1974 and 1975 Flyers), Wayne Stephenson (1975 Flyers), one-time Hextall mentor Chico Resch (1980 Islanders), and the late Michel (Bunny) Larocque (1979 Canadiens), whose 1983 Flyers career was only 80 minutes longer than Ken Wregget’s 1992 playoffs.

How do the Flyers compare to their 1967-68 expansion cousins, the Penguins, Kings, Blues, North Stars/Stars, and Oakland/California/Cleveland (Golden) Seals/Barons? In reverse order:

Won a Cup before: Charlie Hodge, who won a Cup with the 1965 Canadiens as half of a goaltending tandem with Gump Worsley, was the only Seals goalie (1968-70) ever to win a Cup in the franchise’s 11 seasons before merging with the North Stars in 1978.
Won a Cup during: none
Won a Cup after: none

North Stars/Stars
Won a Cup before: Roland Melanson (1981, 1982, 1983 Islanders), Andy Moog (1984, 1985, 1987 Oilers), Gump Worsley himself (1965, 1966, 1968, 1969 Canadiens)
Won a Cup during: Ed Belfour (but not Roman Turek, who saw no playoff time) won a Cup in 1999.
Won a Cup after: none

Won a Cup before: Where to begin? Jacques Plante (1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960 Canadiens), Glenn Hall (1961 Blackhawks), Eddie Johnston (1970, 1972 Bruins), Grant Fuhr (1984, 1985, 1987, 1988 Oilers), Tom Barrasso (1991, 1992 Penguins), Chris Osgood (1997, 1998 Red Wings), Manny Legace (2002 Red Wings), Bunny Larocque again (1979 Canadiens). Ottawa, Vancouver, and the Flyers have the metaphorical reputations, but St. Louis is quite literally a goalie graveyard.
Won a Cup during: The Blues have never won a Stanley Cup.
Won a Cup after: Chris Osgood again (2008 Red Wings), Rick Wamsley (1989 Flames), our own Wayne Stephenson (1975 Flyers)

Won a Cup before: Terry Sawchuk (1952, 1954, 1955 Red Wings plus 1967 Leafs), Rogie Vachon (1968, 1969 Canadiens), Grant Fuhr (1984, 1985, 1987, 1988 Oilers), Stephane Fiset (1996 Avalanche), Roland Melanson (1981, 1982, 1983 Islanders)
Won a Cup during: Jonathan Quick (but not Jonathan Bernier, who saw no playoff time) won a Cup in 2012.
Won a Cup after: Glenn Healy (Mike Richter’s backup with the 1994 Rangers), Cristobal Huet (Antti Niemi’s backup in 2010), Mathieu Garon (2009 Penguins), and one of the all-time “goalies who got away,” Billy Smith (1980, 1981, 1982, 1983 Islanders after New York took him in the 1972 expansion draft)

Won a Cup before: none. Bobby Taylor played two games with the 1976 Pens two seasons after backing up Bernie Parent in the Flyers’ first Cup run; however, Taylor had no playoff time with the Flyers and didn’t technically win a Cup.
Won a Cup during: Tom Barrasso, Marc-Andre Fleury, Frank Pietrangelo, Mathieu Garon, and of course Ken Wregget all won Cups with the Penguins.
Won a Cup after: none

As a Canucks fan, I’m obligated to extend the time frame to 1970 to include the Canucks and Buffalo Sabres, two franchises who have also never won Cups.

Won a Cup before: Grant Fuhr (1984, 1985, 1987, 1988 Oilers). Also, Roger Crozier (202 games as a Buffalo goalie from 1971-1976) won the 1966 Conn Smythe Trophy despite the fact his Red Wings lost the Cup to Montreal, 4-2.
Won a Cup during: none
Won a Cup after: Tom Barrasso (1991, 1992 Penguins), Dominik Hasek (2002, 2008 Red Wings)

Won a Cup before: Charlie Hodge (1965 Canadiens)
Won a Cup during: none
Won a Cup after: Corey Schwab (2003 Devils)

So Ray Emery won’t be cursed one way or another whether he does or doesn’t wear the orange and black again, nor would he curse the Flyers.

However, if he does win a Cup with the Flyers, he should end his career with the Blues, where old goalies go to die.


2013 Stanley Cup pick

Posted in Canucks-related, Flyers-related on June 12, 2013 by wechslerh66




































Chelsea Dagger 4, Sweet Caroline 2.

Phillies 7, Marlins 3

Posted in 2013 Phillies on June 5, 2013 by wechslerh66

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NHL 2013 Playoff Picks: Round Three

Posted in Flyers-related with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , on June 1, 2013 by wechslerh66

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Chicago/Los Angeles: Did you know Ray Emery went 17-1, .922, 1.94 with 3 shutouts and a cap hit of only $1.15M in 2013– and is a UFA (hello again, Flyers)? Whatever it’s worth, he’s two years younger and only $250K more expensive than Michael Leighton– or WAS only $250K more expensive than Michael Leighton. On the other hand, whoever signs him won’t also get Seabrook and Keith. Emery’s not a factor in this series regardless; Corey Crawford’s playoff numbers (.938, 1.70 this season; .924, 2.08 career in 1,586 TOI) are outstanding. His opponent is even better; Jonathan Quick is again the top playoff goalie at .948, 1.50 (now .932, 1.94 career in 2,778 TOI with one Conn Smythe Trophy). Los Angeles also has the better possession numbers (a league-leading 57.1% Fenwick Tied vs. Chicago’s 53.9%); both teams are sub-50% at faceoffs plus the Kings may or may not be without Jarret Stoll (who himself was only at 46.7%). And Robyn Regehr continues to suck. The 9:00 ET start time for Kings home games plus LA’s team defense means I will probably be asleep for much of this series. I’m rooting for the Blackhawks (yeah, “Chelsea Dagger,” but COSTELLO MUSIC was a good album), but I’ll take Los Angeles in six.


Pittsburgh/Boston: The wild card here (assuming no one buys the “Bruins are a team of destiny” meme) is any potential Penguins injuries from the usual suspects; Crosby, Malkin, and Letang missed a combined 42 regular season games to injury in 2013, which seems shockingly low until you remember the denominator was only 134. (James Neal also missed 8 games and Paul Martin 14.) Pens fans waiting for Vokoun to implode in order to resurrect Marc-Andre Fleury are amusing; Vokoun’s career playoff numbers are now .930, 2.22 (1,134 TOI) vs. Fleury’s .904, 2.72 (4,773 TOI). If sample size is relevant: Vokoun may not be a .930 playoff goalie (despite 50% more regular season experience than Fleury, playing for the Predators and Panthers translates to a lot less playoff experience), but we KNOW Fleury is a .904 playoff goalie. The evil we know… As far as Boston, the Bruins are a safer pick, without the potential explosiveness (pro or con) of the Penguins. Rask (.920, 2.42 career playoffs in 1,585 TOI) is about even with Vokoun in goal, no key players missed more than a few games (even Jagr at 41 only missed three games the whole season), and the team’s possession numbers this season were better than Pittsburgh’s. Boston also has the top playoff faceoff percentage at 57.5%, led as usual by Bergeron (63.5%); the Pens are 8th and barely breaking even. As a non-Pens fan, I’m rooting for Boston, but assuming none of Crosby, Malkin, or Vokoun is injured, I’ll take Pittsburgh in seven.